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Titles: mage hybrid setup?
Anyone playing mage + melee with their titles? How do you set it up with other titles?

IE. Air + Combo + GS  with which remaining 2 titles?

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I am playing hybrid (more headed toward the mage part): 1h axe/combo/spellchanting/water/infliction.
So, in the end i sit at a 0% bonus/malus on everything (+6 from the title, with an overall combined -6% from the other titles) but have access to 6 signatures and the melee skills on the 1h axe.
I feel it can be a pretty powerful setup despite what many people think. Sure, you'll deal less dmg overall than a specialized character but you have a lot of tools to use (the few times i managed to actually use them effectively in pvp, i have performed really well....too bad i am not a good pvper so i usually do a lot of mistakes or forget to use all that i have access to :D)

It really depends on wherer you plan on being more "meleish" or more "mageish" so that the remaining 2 titles either go to boost melee (you could combo-warrior or use the ones to boost dmg/atk speed) or magic (either with the +potency/speed titles or with other schools for more adaptability but less raw power)

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Using 1h axe/fire magic/scholar with bone armor. Think its a good setup if you feel like youre too vulnerable in a robe but still want to play as a mage. For melee I would say the axe, either 1h or 2h, is the obvious weapon because of the power attack.

In this setup you def lack raw dmg but being able to melee a bit makes it a good enough tradeoff for me. I will say it feels like a bit like a mage setup for newer players, I expect most vets will go for robes eventually.

Havent decided yet on whether to take more then 1 magic school, will level fire full first and then decide.
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Semu Cet - Fire, Air, Necro and Combo GS. Bone armour!
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Are the effects from not picking i.e scholar or potent mage that negligible that people gravitate towards more signature spells instead?

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Are the effects from not picking i.e scholar or potent mage that negligible that people gravitate towards more signature spells instead?

Its a matter of taste but combo scholar is generally best, but depends on your build.

Im Air necro combo PA skinning but here are some other builds

GS archer veteran brawler combo air
GS combo air combo warrior
GS combo air combo scholar

Really depends if you want archery or are more melee or more magic oriented

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Are the effects from not picking i.e scholar or potent mage that negligible that people gravitate towards more signature spells instead?

Its a matter of taste but combo scholar is generally best, but depends on your build.

Im Air necro combo PA skinning but here are some other builds

GS archer veteran brawler combo air
GS combo air combo warrior
GS combo air combo scholar

Really depends if you want archery or are more melee or more magic oriented
You can check Mycke's build here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1blK-lG96U

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Im pretty sure if there was award for getting all the trolls to fixate on you, I would be the hands down winner :D

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What about armor master and potent mage instead of scholar? Or is armor master trashcan tier?

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Are the effects from not picking i.e scholar or potent mage that negligible that people gravitate towards more signature spells instead?

Its a matter of taste but combo scholar is generally best, but depends on your build.

Im Air necro combo PA skinning but here are some other builds

GS archer veteran brawler combo air
GS combo air combo warrior
GS combo air combo scholar

Really depends if you want archery or are more melee or more magic oriented
You can check Mycke's build here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1blK-lG96U

The still image gets me rolling every time, lmfao
Fair enough ill be there, Actually can we do it Thurs
(ive been lugging boxes of books all morning from a collection I bought and a little beat)

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What about armor master and potent mage instead of scholar? Or is armor master trashcan tier?

Armor master is +6% protects at 100 so a typical hybrid build would add like .4-.7 extra protections so its really only good on heavies

Potent mage and other such deeper titles give +4 to one thing (in this case magic damage) and -2 to melee damage melee speed melee stam eff archery damage archery speed and archery stam efficiency, where scholar gives +3 to magic damage, speed, mana effeciency and duration with the exact same minuses.

So for example:

air potent quick combo GS = air [+6 air -2 all other magic and physical] potent [+4 magic damage -2 all physical]  quick [+4 magic speed -2 all physical} GS [+6 -2 all other melee and -2 all magic]

GS would be +6 -6 =0 [damage speed and stam eff]
other weapons +0 -8 = -8 [damage speed and stam eff]
Bow +0 -6 = -6 [damage speed and stam eff]
Air +6 -2 =4 + 4 damage + 4 speed = 8 damage 8 speed 4 eff 4 dura
other schools -4 +4 damage +4 speed = 0 damage 0 speed -4 eff -4 dura

Now instead scholar gives +3 to damage speed eff and dura -2 to all physcial so air combo scholar combo GS would be

GS +6 -4 = 2
other weapons +0 -6 = -6
Archery +0 -4 = -4
air +6 -2 +3 = +7 damage + 7 speed +7 eff + 7 dura
other schools -4 +3 = -1 damage -1 speed -1 eff -1 dura

So as you can see for the very small cost of 1 in magic damage and speed you gain in everything else and really potent quick or any other deep specialized titles are only really good for super focused pures.
  • Last Edit: June 11, 2018, 07:12:41 pm by Mycke

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Whenever these discussions come up, the fact you are generally getting way more bonuses from Armor traits than from Titles gets completely over looked. Since there is no armor that gives magic and melee bonuses is why you don't often see real hybrids. What you have predominately are mages with some melee on the side wearing bone sets (full magic potency bonuses and no melee bonuses).

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Whenever these discussions come up, the fact you are generally getting way more bonuses from Armor traits than from Titles gets completely over looked. Since there is no armor that gives magic and melee bonuses is why you don't often see real hybrids. What you have predominately are mages with some melee on the side wearing bone sets (full magic potency bonuses and no melee bonuses).

Well my standard hybrid gear set is bone/gbone upper body [helm chest shoulders arms elbows] scale/fp gloves and studded/tleather lower body [legs girdle greaves and boots] with a q2/3 encumb enchant gets me <1 magic encumb, I would think most hybrids do something similar no?

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Whenever these discussions come up, the fact you are generally getting way more bonuses from Armor traits than from Titles gets completely over looked. Since there is no armor that gives magic and melee bonuses is why you don't often see real hybrids. What you have predominately are mages with some melee on the side wearing bone sets (full magic potency bonuses and no melee bonuses).
If you wanna go hybrid then you can use hybrid armor too, just like @Mycke said, which is the same i use: half bone/giant bone and the other half studded/thick.
As said earier, sure you'll be not dealing as much dmg as a specialist both for not having full bonuses from your title (because they don't synergize as good as just going full mage of full melee/archer) and for having (usually) a mixed armor set.
You give up raw power for utility and duttility. For example you have the same mobility of a pure mage, and you can be able to catch them in melee, where you would kill them easily. Or against a melee, you can trade some blows and then try to reset the fight using your better mobility and/or debuffing him/nuking him from distance etc etc.
It is surely much harder to play it well since there is not a single element of combat in which you excel, but you have to manage to use your versatility as the added bonus of your build....but when you get it right, it is a hell of fun :D

The other advantage is that, by changing your armor you can basically suit any role in a party without losing too much.
Wanna go tanky? put on heavy armor and get use of that weapon title (you'll be at a mere 3-4% lower efficency in melee/archery compared to a fully specced.....so in the end it will usually not determine the outcome of a battle).
Wanna go mage? put a robe or full bone set and do it

Are the effects from not picking i.e scholar or potent mage that negligible that people gravitate towards more signature spells instead?
It is a matter of tastes...i went the hybrid route because i prever having different tools at my disposal and the best way to get that is using multiple schools. But it is just as good going single school/single weapon and boosting it with warrior/scholar for more raw dmg in that part

What about armor master and potent mage instead of scholar? Or is armor master trashcan tier?
To me the bonuses given by armor master are a bit too low to waste a title slot on that....i think even uber classified it more as a "filler" title which goes well with everything when you have no particular interest in anything more specific.
  • Last Edit: June 11, 2018, 08:45:03 pm by dariobrun

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There are a few hybrid set ups. Best imo is melee weapon of choice, combo-scholar, combo- mage school of choice (pick wisely).

Use bone with a hood, depending on get up you can add a leather chest with a small feather.