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  • mrW
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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #240
Ub3r post incomming

How do you know xD ?
They have been online for more than an hour
Don't forget, it takes 8 hours for a response to be written.
6 people having an 1.5hour meeting is already more than that, so that is not surprising to me at least.

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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #241
Ub3r post incomming

How do you know xD ?
They have been online for more than an hour
Don't forget, it takes 8 hours for a response to be written.
6 people having an 1.5hour meeting is already more than that, so that is not surprising to me at least.

they eat those baguettes very slowly
IGN: "Eilis Traee"
However, you have to take into account why we are introducing local banking.
In New Dawn, its main purpose is to be a convenience feature.
"Things just got worse."

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #242
Ub3r post incomming

How do you know xD ?
They have been online for more than an hour
Don't forget, it takes 8 hours for a response to be written.
6 people having an 1.5hour meeting is already more than that, so that is not surprising to me at least.
Don't kill a joke. Booooo
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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #243
TL;DR/
We have to unfortunately confirm the situation:
There has indeed been a court judgement concerning the company.


We initially did not believe it because the website had inaccurate/outdated information and, in our mind, it was most likely a troll.
We were not aware we were even assigned to court, and we learned it through you guys. Yes, we know how that sounds.
Marc has an appointment with the liquidator on Tuesday.
We will keep you posted as things evolve.

This is not necessarily the end, as thankfully, there is an appeal procedure.
As we understand it, this judgement is essentially: "this company will never be able to pay up, so better close it down.".
We can contest that and make a case that we can indeed end up paying the debt.

Our plan is to essentially lawyer up and fight.
This process may take months, and we have no intention to go down.
Not after all the sacrifices we've done in the last 3 years.

In more details:
Had @Xipos not found it by chance, we might not have learned about it, and they might not have known we still existed/operated.
Apparently they didn't even know we were running a game called New Dawn.

We received neither paper mail, online mail, nor phone calls regarding the court order.
However, as we learned, it is not required to get a "confirmation of reception" for these kind of courts.
Meaning that even if they did not reach us, it is considered our fault for not showing up.

The debt is real.
It was a debt that could be absorbed with only a few months of subs, and we were gearing up for that thanks to the recent activity growth.
The irony is that we received a paper mail AND a phone call on their behalf earlier this week.
They knew how to reach us and didn't seem aware either... That fed our incredulity too.

We'll do all it takes to continue to operate, but there will be consequences and limitations that we'll have in the short term.
An appeal process will take time, most likely months, but we won't go down easily.

Yes we are still working on a patch, one we were hoping to start to QA next week.
It will be an Update 2.2: Community Requests.

Mainly frequent requests read in-game, on the forums and on discord.
Also some housecleaning of bugs and dirty shortcuts we made in the code to gain time.
Essentially, time consuming changes that don't require much collaboration or thinking to do.
Ideal for a period where people take turns getting some time off.
A "back to school" progress update about it and some input threads were meant to be opened.

We'll power through and aim for the patch to be before the end of the month.

Please, keep the trolling to a minimum during this time of turmoil.
We'll be fielding questions for a few more hours.
  • Last Edit: September 14, 2018, 09:51:11 pm by Ub3rgames
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  • Giant
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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #244
Thanks for the update.

Suggestion: start charging for subs! Open a custom shop, race changes, name changes, guild name changes and sub tokens to start with. You need to provide a business plan with future income generators! 
  • Last Edit: September 14, 2018, 06:09:24 pm by Giant

  • Khor
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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #245
TL;DR/
We have to unfortunately confirm the situation:
There has indeed been a court judgement concerning the company.


We initially did not believe it because the website had inaccurate/outdated information and, in our mind, it was most likely a troll.
We were not aware we were even assigned to court, and we learned it through you guys. Yes, we know how that sounds.
Marc has an appointment with the liquidator on Tuesday.
We will keep you posted as things evolve.

This is not necessarily the end, as thankfully, there is an appeal procedure.
As we understand it, this judgement is essentially: "this company will never be able to pay up, so better close it down.".
We can contest that and make a case that we can indeed end up paying the debt.

Our plan is to essentially lawyer up and fight.
This process may take months, and we have no intention to go down.
Not after all the sacrifices we've done in the last 3 years.

In more details:
Had @Xipos not found it by chance, we might not have learned about it, and they might not have known we still existed/operated.
Apparently they didn't even know we were running a game called New Dawn.

We received neither paper mail, online mail, nor phone calls regarding the court order.
However, as we learned, it is not required to get a "confirmation of reception" for these kind of courts.
Meaning that even if they did not reach us, it is considered our fault for not showing up.

The debt is real.
It was a debt that could be absorbed with only a few months of subs, and we were gearing up for that thanks to the recent activity growth.
The irony is that we received a paper mail AND a phone call on their behalf earlier this week.
They knew how to reach us and didn't seem aware either... That fed our incredulity too.

We'll do all it takes to continue to operate, but there will be consequences and limitations that we'll have in the short term.
An appeal process will take time, most likely months, but we won't go down easily.

Yes we are still working on a patch, one we were hoping to start to QA next week.
It will be an Update 2.2: Community Requests.

Mainly frequent requests read in-game, on the forums and on discord.
Also some housecleaning of bugs and dirty shortcuts we made in the code to gain time.
Essentially, time consuming changes that don't require much collaboration or thinking to do.
Ideal for a period where people take turns getting some time off.
A "back to school" progress update about it and some input threads were meant to be opened.

We'll power through and aim for the patch to be before the end of the month.

Please, keep the trolling to a minimum during this time of turmoil.
We'll be fielding questions for a few more hours.

One sentence:

URSSAF = des gros connards.

Bon courage pour les prochains mois.
  • Last Edit: September 14, 2018, 09:51:31 pm by Ub3rgames

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #246
Appreciate the honest update.

Perhaps introduce a sub now then? At a minimal rate, which can prove you can gradually pay down the debt over time?
Investors (far shot thought)? EU funding (lol)?

  • Khor
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Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #247
Appreciate the honest update.

Perhaps introduce a sub now then? At a minimal rate, which can prove you can gradually pay down the debt over time?
Investors (far shot thought)? EU funding (lol)?

I'll gladly throw in 10 euros to help out.

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #248

Yes we are still working on a patch, one we were hoping to start to QA next week.
It will be an Update 2.2: Community Requests.

Mainly frequent requests read in-game, on the forums and on discord.
Also some housecleaning of bugs and dirty shortcuts we made in the code to gain time.
Essentially, time consuming changes that don't require much collaboration or thinking to do.
Ideal for a period where people take turns getting some time off.
A "back to school" progress update about it and some input threads were meant to be opened.

We'll power through and aim for the patch to be before the end of the month.

Don't postpone it please.

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #249
thanks xipos

edit also yea you need cash ill pay sub

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #250
Okay, so the debt is real, meaning you did not pay taxes or something, right? If that is true, you should have known something like this happens, or wtf, just forgot about it?

How do you explain having a debt and not knowing about it? It's not like someone made that debt out of their asses, right?

One more question, you said you prefered to 'pay' employees then, but this sounds like you wouldn't have any payed employees now, or what's going on?
IGN: "Eilis Traee"
However, you have to take into account why we are introducing local banking.
In New Dawn, its main purpose is to be a convenience feature.
"Things just got worse."

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #251
Perhaps a crunch phase to patch out rough stuff like NPE, combat balancing etc.

Steam greenlight it with a sub at 5$/mo, and you'd cover in your debts pretty fast I think.
The market trends are in your favour atm (Fortnite, Rust clones like Conan, Sandbox MMOs disappointing atm) - which gives you an opportunity to grab a substantial playerbase. The game doesn't have to be perfect, it's plenty better than how UW was after Steam launch. Fix NPE and some bugs to avoid noobs dying, and you could pivot the situation relatively fast. You'd need around 4k players paying regularly over 3months + initial box cost to cover it approx.

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #252
Free Europe, no need to pay taxes in free world!

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #253
If you have the majority of the players on your side is up to You, this post was a good start. What lead the way for that post was not OK, so learn from it.
  • Last Edit: September 14, 2018, 06:17:53 pm by Nataz

Re: Ub3rgames - Status
Reply #254
78k, is 5200 subs 15 euro each