"Our title system is an expansion of the titles in the same spirit than the destroyer title. These will NOT be classes and will be completely optional."
Even if UW was a better base to build upon, it's a moot point since UW licence was not available, nor is it likely it ever will be available.
df uw was garbage
Fair enough ill be there, Actually can we do it Thurs(ive been lugging boxes of books all morning from a collection I bought and a little beat)
Quote from: Dragonx Ivanzypher on June 29, 2018, 04:24:27 pmdf uw was garbageProof is in the pudding. Until RoA and ND catches up with population, content, PvP balance/diversity DFUW will remain the best version of DF.
Excuses after excuses. Some of the worse excuse I ever heard. Well then enjoy super low pop since it is justified lol.
Quote from: lambdaExpression on June 30, 2018, 04:41:38 amExcuses after excuses. Some of the worse excuse I ever heard. Well then enjoy super low pop since it is justified lol. Since you didnt bother to try and show any of my 4 points werent true, I can assume you agree with them even though you dont like them?
Quote from: Mycke on June 30, 2018, 04:52:53 amQuote from: lambdaExpression on June 30, 2018, 04:41:38 amExcuses after excuses. Some of the worse excuse I ever heard. Well then enjoy super low pop since it is justified lol. Since you didnt bother to try and show any of my 4 points werent true, I can assume you agree with them even though you dont like them?Lets play this excuse game. 1) Original developers with a prebuilt base carried over from original.Population: Both original DFO AND DFUW are carried over to ROA-ND so it should have BIGGER population!Content: You seem to agree that DFUW had more content then ROA-ND but you are saying it doesn't count since we have to give these new developer 'an excuse' of being new to the code/game. They had the code since 2016-02-02, 15:43:18 !PvP Balance: ROA-ND both touched the PVP mechanic there is no excuse here. 2) Far less competing PvP games on the market.Oh dear. PLEASE englighten this whole community with the name of these great PvP games that is putting presure to ND/ROA. In fact most of these MMO PvP games existed during DFUW life time. 3) Did you said no other version of itself competing for players?Someone help me with the math. In South Amercia 400 million people were all drinking Coke. Coke shutdown. Pepsi and RC Cola entered the market and competing with each other. Now all of sudden Pepsi and RC Cola combined has 100 million drinkers? Where the hell did the other 300 million go? Why would competition for players with itself LOWER to total number of players? Ever thought that maybe Pepsi (ND) and RC Cola (ROA) sucks so bad that people just stop drinking cola?4) Not the 4th incarnation of the gameThis not an excuse. DFUW had 7000 subscriber at the beginning and it came down to a fraction of that within a year. How can ROA-ND not even break that number? If ROA-ND was better than DFUW then just word of mouth from 300,000 that played original DFO would have pushed above the DFUW numbers. Here is what 100 people looks like and it is the current population of the game at prime time. DFUW was a better than DFO and current state of ROA/ND. If ND continues to moves in this snail pace it will be years before it catch up to DFUW.