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I have just subbed. I come from games like MO and other full drop loot. This game is amazing. But, to subb and in the very next day to read all of this turned me off totaly about the game. Cannot invest into something that dies. They should make people aware of this and not make publicity for a game that has this huge issues...This is not fair for everyone. This game deserves more then their present lack of respect. What a great game and what a shame !...
Before launch, lots of community interaction, updates, and passion for the game and community.After launch, all of that is gone and every conversation was Marc putting his foot in his mouth.Ya, I lost my faith in Ub3r making New Dawn into a successful remake of an amazing game.My expectations now are trickled in small patches, enough pop to keep them afloat and yet another darkfall eventually ending in a sour note.While the financial issues aren't our concern, they do tell me ub3r will never invest into new dawn and treat it like a real game. This will forever be their garage pet project.I lost faith but have hopes. Just like American politics.
Not entirely sure how you believe they are working on the game but can't get patch done. They seem to be conflicting statements but maybe you mean finish the patch while there is a game to save.There is a lot of different reasons to why they would not be honest with what they are doing or whats going on. I'm not saying that is the case but think things through and decide for yourself. Most people are not good people, and even if they are good people, everyone has flaws. How could anyone possibly believe they have the same interest as you/we do, that is almost never the case. If you are lucky, your interests align. I mean what is the chance that anyone can be clueless enough not to know about a legal process in their own country, against their own company, before a forum of random people finds out? I can't remember when that process was started, but that "vacation" has always seems suspicious to me.Here you got some examples:They can't give up official because they are having legal troubles. Giving up would most likely restart the liquidation process and lead to court because then they no longer have a "valuable asset" and nothing to bargain with.They might be negotiating with another company to take this over since they cant handle it, looks better while its still alive.It looks better on your CV if a company dies after you leave.Admitting failure is hard, far from everyone can do it.Every little bit of money helps, new subs and new alts brings some amount of money.Point is that I can keep going. Not saying any of this is true, just saying "we are working" doesn't mean shit when we don't don't see the result or any type of status update.But hey, its all good cause there is a GM in game that says it is all good. Why would anyone in the world ever lie about anything.
So do I trust that they are still working on the game? -Ye I believe they are, since they gain nothing by saying they are working on the game and not doing it since they ain't charging any money atm and only way to get subs on they need to make that patch.
It is a fair point that server cost will with all probability increases faster than money coming in from new players, thing is, we don't know what they are paying for their servers or how much (little?) money get in from new subscriptions. We don't even know if the server costs matter at all in this equation. I also think it is a good point that it would be easier for them to string us along if they patched, but like I said so many times before, I suspect that they are not very good at their jobs as programmers. I have no clue about this patch, it might come soon and it might not come before the servers are shut down.Quote from: MKH on October 25, 2018, 10:48:15 amSo do I trust that they are still working on the game? -Ye I believe they are, since they gain nothing by saying they are working on the game and not doing it since they ain't charging any money atm and only way to get subs on they need to make that patch.My response was mainly related to this. I was just pointing out the fact that there is a lot of reasons not to tell the truth and if anyone sits and thinks a bit I'm quite sure they can come up with of a lot better reasons than the ones I managed to listed within 1 min. It took longer to do the formatting for the list.We also don't know the bankruptcy laws in their country for their type of corporation. In my country, those server costs wouldn't mean shit and no one could actually be able to do anything in regards to the payments they have withed. This, to my knowledge, only applies to one specific type of corporate structure. This isn't my field of expertise though.So, as always, we don't know anything since uber doesn't say anything.PS:I voted #1 but I'm actually not sure this is representing what I think. I feel that this game will without a doubt die if they don't change their behavior in regards to this community. I also think that even if they change, chances are that it still might die because we might be at a to late state now and because their economy might be screwed. I am how ever still here, logging on the forums now and again, waiting for these zombies to come back to life.PPS: Here is another scary situation.They made a decent amount of money with the pre-sales, a lot of people seemed to have bought yearly subscriptions. Seems people are still buying subscriptions.1) There is money.2) They choose to not pay.3) They pay the minimal amount they can to keep creditors away while paying themselves salary.4) They keep this product alive so that the creditors thinks that there is a chance that they can pay their money back, in essence buying time. They also do this so they have a legal way to pay themselves salary.5) When the amount of money they have left is gone, they declare bankruptcy and take down the servers.Like I said man, it is pointless to speculate but there is one irrefutable fact. There is a lot of reasons for them not to tell us the truth about what is happening. To put it crudely, there is a lot of reasons for them to blatantly lie and tell us "We are working, patch is coming soon".