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Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #75
guys, it's over.  Let's talk health care now.
  • Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 04:14:17 pm by spoonlord

Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #76
guys, it's over.  Let's talk health care now.

Well that's easy, the current narrative is...

The richest nation in the history of the world cant afford universal healthcare even though every other advanced nation can.

That's the story and they are sticking to it...
Mycke Soulslayer - Supreme General: Rastalfarian - An all Alfar clan of all play styles in all time zones, welcoming new and vet players alike.

Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #77
guys, it's over.  Let's talk health care now.

Well that's easy, the current narrative is...

The richest nation in the history of the world cant afford universal healthcare even though every other advanced nation can.

That's the story and they are sticking to it...

We should follow the European model so we can all be Charlie Gard.

Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #78
guys, it's over.  Let's talk health care now.

Well that's easy, the current narrative is...

The richest nation in the history of the world cant afford universal healthcare even though every other advanced nation can.

That's the story and they are sticking to it...

We should follow the European model so we can all be Charlie Gard.

Yeah because insurance companies never limit treatments....

All systems are imperfect, but these are the facts

1. All advanced nations have universal coverage except the US
2. The US pays most per capita for healthcare in the world.
3. The US ranks 37th in healthcare performance

Doesn't take a genius to see the problem, but it does take an idiot to point out one case and ignore the volumes of evidence.
  • Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 07:32:16 pm by Mycke
Mycke Soulslayer - Supreme General: Rastalfarian - An all Alfar clan of all play styles in all time zones, welcoming new and vet players alike.

Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #79
guys, it's over.  Let's talk health care now.

Well that's easy, the current narrative is...

The richest nation in the history of the world cant afford universal healthcare even though every other advanced nation can.

That's the story and they are sticking to it...

We should follow the European model so we can all be Charlie Gard.

Yeah because insurance companies never limit treatments....

All systems are imperfect, but these are the facts

1. All advanced nations have universal coverage except the US
2. The US pays most per capita for healthcare in the world.
3. The US ranks 37th in healthcare performance

Doesn't take a genius to see the problem, but it does take an idiot to point out one case and ignore the volumes of evidence.

The problem is clearly the federal governments involvement in the healthcare market in the first place. They have no business being there, and only allowed to get involved due to bastardization of U.S. Constitution by activist judges.  Everybody in the U.S. can get healthcare if they need it, saying otherwise is a lie. 

What insurance companies don't and can't do is stop a citizen from travelling to a better nation to get treatment.

Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #80
Let me go ahead and necro this stupidity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u2EWJP87YU&feature=youtu.be

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Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #81
he did exactly what i thought he would do. cherry pick data.

take a look at the top graph at 4:16:


here you can see 2 things. one he mentioned himself, that only in the 19th century modern temperature measurements began and that every data before was taken with other methods that are not as exact as the more recent ones.
this can be seen quite well by how different all those lines are in the graph above, compared to the lines of the last 100-150 years.

but the more important fact that can be seen from that graph is the very distinct trend over the last 100 years!

PS:
never trust anyone who just picks out a few data points from huge data sets and derives general conclusions from them.
i know his hypothesis was very specific. but like rokaroo shows people take his video and think climate change isn't real, which is his actual goal with his video
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Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #82
climate change isn't real

nobody disputes that the climate is changing

what people are disputing is anthropogenic global warming, which is what is being sold (after failing to sell global cooling), which is so obviously wrong that they had to rename it to climate change so people can say "herp derp they think climate change isn't real"

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Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
Reply #83
what has changed in the last 150 years for it to spike so much? industrialization has happened.

i don't care what you call it. we humans are changing the climate and we humans collectively have to work on reducing that effect. there is really nothing good coming from denying it and resist any plans that want to reduce it

PS:
humans have been changing climate and their surrounding fauna and flora for a very very long time.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
 we just got a lot "better" at it in the last 2 centuries.

  • Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 02:03:04 pm by nubnax
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Re: COP21 Paris Climate Agreement (cant be cancelled)
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