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New guy here!
Hi all,

Thinking of giving the game another try. I had played the old original and I was kind of intrigued by some of the changes the new management made. Some in particular very positive.

I just have two questions.

1. Can someone give me a list of differences between this and original, or point me to a link that has such a list?

2. Is there a free trial available?

Cheers,
stubs

Re: New guy here!
Reply #1
Answers:

Both questions can easily be answered through a 5 minute Google search.  That said here we go.

1.  DND Differences:

    DND has local banking

    Title System

    Spawn Scaling

    Some balance changes to skills / spells


2.  There is no trial.

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Take the plunge if you want.  I'm sure you'll get a few responses in here telling you to either play or avoid the game (I would personally tell you to avoid this cluster %$#) but ultimately you need to decide for yourself what to do. 

Re: New guy here!
Reply #2
Answers:

Both questions can easily be answered through a 5 minute Google search.  That said here we go.

1.  DND Differences:

    DND has local banking

    Title System

    Spawn Scaling

    Some balance changes to skills / spells


2.  There is no trial.

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Take the plunge if you want.  I'm sure you'll get a few responses in here telling you to either play or avoid the game (I would personally tell you to avoid this cluster %$#) but ultimately you need to decide for yourself what to do. 

don't listen to this guy-- play the game and judge it how you will -- the game is entertaining but if you suck at it, you'll have a pretty bad time like this guy named KevinDL

Re: New guy here!
Reply #3
Avoid the game, it is extremely tedious.

Fast travel was removed from the game, meaning if you want to go on a pvp trip or farm a mob spawn you have to travel there and then travel all the way back, there is no recall or fast roads. But the worst part is that when you die, you are stuck in the middle of nowhere with no mount and no bank (local banking) so you have to run all the way back.

Titles make it so you either choose between 1) combat or 2) crafting. You have 5 titles, if you choose to take crafting titles then you gimp yourself in combat, meaning you either have to sub an alt to craft or miss out on half of the game because you can't craft at all.

On top of this, its still the same old graphics from 2009, the same old shit UI and the same old New player experience, its an old mmo that won't make it, which shows as the population is terrible.

Good new though, ROA devs should give you a 1 week free trial if you contact them :) ROA has its problems, but is in much better shape than this trash.
  • Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 02:47:43 am by Blackmeat Bonekiller

Re: New guy here!
Reply #4
Avoid the game, it is extremely tedious.

Fast travel was removed from the game, meaning if you want to go on a pvp trip or farm a mob spawn you have to travel there and then travel all the way back, there is no recall or fast roads. But the worst part is that when you die, you are stuck in the middle of nowhere with no mount and no bank (local banking) so you have to run all the way back.

Titles make it so you either choose between 1) combat or 2) crafting. You have 5 titles, if you choose to take crafting titles then you gimp yourself in combat, meaning you either have to sub an alt to craft or miss out on half of the game because you can't craft at all.

On top of this, its still the same old graphics from 2009, the same old shit UI and the same old New player experience, its an old mmo that won't make it, which shows as the population is terrible.

Good new though, ROA devs should give you a 1 week free trial if you contact them :) ROA has its problems, but is in much better shape than this trash.
Wtf u serious? Ok imm calling on new dawn trolls to goto roa forums and talk all the shit they can about roa

Oh wait all the trolls play roa very toxic community.

Re: New guy here!
Reply #5
its so fun i made a 3rd account

PROS:
NO of few hackers, cheaters mainly in hiding not a big factor in PVP
No flying 360 mages hybrid that can jump faster than your horse, no 6 x ray spams for 300 dmg in 5 seconds scripts.
You wont see the same No Lifers teleporting all over the game world just to shit on newbies.
Melee players get more love here than DFO.
Being a dedicated crafter is in high demand, im always looking for crafters in npc cities.
Meditation offline skilling makes skilling up much more easy.
  • Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 03:42:49 am by Dragonx Ivanzypher
Ingame names
New Dawn: Kenshiro Ryu
Jungle Kingdom Recruiter:
We recruit new players, casuals and actives, relaxed clan
atmosphere discord perferred but not required.

Re: New guy here!
Reply #6
  • Changes / Differences to DFO:
    • Local Banking
    • Market places (Auction houses)
    • No fast travel options (Portals, Runestones, Recalls)
    • Front loading: Stats, Skills and Spells give the biggest bonus at early levels. You can consider a Stat / Spell / Skill maxed at 75. Leveling it to 100 does not give any significant bonus anymore.
    • Linear Skill / Spell progression: Now Skills and Spells improve their efficiency immediately while they get better, instead after steps of 25 / 50 / ...
    • No more "bind at a bindstone". If you die, you can choose to respawn at a nearby bindstone
    • Mob spawn leveling / scaling. The more players at the mob spawn, the higher the levels of the mobs, the more mobs spawn
    • Titles system: You can pick up to 5 Magic, Physical or Crafting specializations (Fire Magic, Water Magic, Archery, Weaponsmithing, Tailoring, Greatsword, 1H Axe, ...) with their own buffs and trade offs. No more "everyone can do everything".
    • Selected Titles level and improve over time.
    • Armors have traits. Robes buff magic, Leather buffs Archery and Melee, Heavy buffs survivability and health regen, ...
    • No more spell fizzles / crafting fails
    • Resource localization
    • Skills and Spells automatically unlock at certain skill levels. No more running to buy new Skills & Spells.
    • GUI overhauls. Auto looting, Map improvements, sort bags and banks with U, Shift select range of items, Ctrl select single items or Ctrl Dbl click to select items of same type, bind 1H and Shield on the same slot, option to bind different Staffs to different spells, bind multiple skills and spells in the same slot (rotation), etc.
    • ... and much more.
  • No free trial. But 9,99 isn't that much to check it out.

That said, the biggest difference compared to DFO or RoA is that DND is "slow". You need patience and time. Not really for the leveling and progression, the "grind" is pretty ok so far. But mainly for your everydays tasks.
Since you can't access all your stuff from everywhere and can't just "recall" or use a marked Runestone to teleport, you need to do some planning and most likely want to set up several "Bank outposts" with some mounts, some gear and so on. So if you die (PvP) far away from your main bank and respawn at a wilderness bindstone, you are not completely lost and have to walk all the way on foot.
However, if you die from PvE you can of course always walk back to your gravestone.

On the other hand, if you are looking for fast leveling, fast traveling, teleporting all over the world, instant PvP action and the combat style of old DFO (aka "Magefall" with knock ups and ray spam), then you might want to check out Rise of Agon (RoA).

DND and RoA are both Darkfall, but at the same time completly different at its core and made for different tastes and types of players.
Unfortunately, as you can see, some people here just hate DND for what it is and can't (or don't want to) understand or accept that DND isn't DFO and isn't RoA. And instead of just let it be and play RoA, they enjoy trash talking the game at every occasion.

Long story short: I'd recommend you trying both games, DND and RoA, and see what you like more, if any.
  • Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 02:40:06 pm by nuclearping

Re: New guy here!
Reply #7
If you consider character grind/progression fun, DND is for you.  Otherwise ROA is the better choice. 

That being said, Diminishing Returns has improved the PvP viability of new toons.  So if you enjoy the grind but are casual, you can still compete.

Both games have made a TON of positive changes since DFO, too many to list. 

Both games are currently struggling for population while they develop their wish lists.  In each game most of the world is empty, but you can find a good amount of pvp / company if you look in the right places.
  • Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 03:30:49 am by Rimamok

Re: New guy here!
Reply #8
Do you want pvp or mmorpg?
pvp: roa, hands down
mmorpg: you might like this game
something something beta males

Re: New guy here!
Reply #9
If you played the old DF then Character Progression is at a sweet spot imho and alot less than the orignal DF. It might seem grindy but you need to be aware that nearly everything is front loaded which means you get most of the effect early on.

Also you need to know that the game is still waiting on the complete siege system with watchtowers, siege area fixes, better holding value. But the devs know that and it is at least in the implementation phase of the road map.

And on this forum there are a couple of trolls that post multiple negative posts a day on every topic that comes up. Most of them dont even play.
  • Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 10:13:51 am by elektrofux

Re: New guy here!
Reply #10
If you played the old DF then Character Progression is at a sweet spot imho and alot less than the orignal DF. It might seem grindy but you need to be aware that nearly everything is front loaded which means you get most of the effect early on.

Also you need to know that the game is still waiting on the complete siege system with watchtowers, siege area fixes, better holding value. But the devs know that and it is at least in the implementation phase of the road map.

And on this forum there are a couple of trolls that post multiple negative posts a day on every topic that comes up. Most of them dont even play.

they are sad really, they are pushing their own feelings of New Dawn here on others, its ok if they dislike New Dawn, but please its their personal opinion and they should go to ROA and hate on New Dawn from there, no need to be here.
Ingame names
New Dawn: Kenshiro Ryu
Jungle Kingdom Recruiter:
We recruit new players, casuals and actives, relaxed clan
atmosphere discord perferred but not required.

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Re: New guy here!
Reply #11
Do you want pvp or mmorpg?
pvp: roa, hands down
mmorpg: you might like this game
something something beta males

Thats basicly well put.
Darkfall is the best experience on PC with my pants not unzipped.

Re: New guy here!
Reply #12
DnD - working towards being a virtual world
RoA - arena pvp
Chunder McBushpig and Chunder Struck

Re: New guy here!
Reply #13
Avoid the game, it is extremely tedious.

Good new though, ROA devs should give you a 1 week free trial if you contact them :) ROA has its problems, but is in much better shape than this trash.

Alright man, between these two comments in this topic, you really need to get banned at this point. You really enjoy being a piece of shit don't you.

Re: New guy here!
Reply #14
Avoid the game, it is extremely tedious.

Good new though, ROA devs should give you a 1 week free trial if you contact them :) ROA has its problems, but is in much better shape than this trash.

Alright man, between these two comments in this topic, you really need to get banned at this point. You really enjoy being a piece of shit don't you.

If I was an ROA developer I'd ban him from that too, he's dragging their game into the mud