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  • nubnax
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detailed spell list
This list was finished in Indev with a maxed Character. I won't be able to update it with changes coming after launch, as i would need a maxed character again.

The list now also contains the skill and title level requirements for spells and what the spells are linked with for leveling up.

this list's purpose is to compare spells (and archery) with each other.
the numbers are only representative for a naked vs a naked with a r80 staff with 0.68 magnitude and 0.55 casting speed or a r50 bow with 0.77 damage and 0.5 speed.
no title modifiers were used.

all magic (and archery) was maxed out for the tests. (attributes, skills and spells)

detailed spell list

PS:
if anyone wants to help, repeat my tests and let me know if your numbers add up with mine.
the testing methodology is explained in the general information tab.
  • Last Edit: January 30, 2018, 08:35:01 am by nubnax
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Re: detailed spell list
Reply #1
First.

You're awesome.

Keep going.
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Reply #2
Thank you for sharing! :)

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  • nubnax
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Re: detailed spell list
Reply #3
just did a little test on how projectile size affects hit detection from direct hits (i.e. no AoE)

https://youtu.be/QHZAPQdKU2o

conclusion:
projectile size doesn't matter. if you hit your targets hit box dead center your spell/arrow hits, otherwise it doesn't.
just look at inferno how it flies through my target in the video but doesn't connect.
  • Last Edit: September 21, 2017, 07:35:02 pm by nubnax
Bala Eregi
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Reply #4
Holy s*** you are crazy dude. Thanks a lot. Some very interesting numbers.

  • gosti
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Reply #5
Remember - with field aoes protections are counted twice. So that 70dmg volcano deals 40dmg vs a guy with 15 fire prot.

It's because the protections count with each set of ticks seperetaly (2 sets of 3 ticks).

  • nubnax
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Re: detailed spell list
Reply #6
oh wow you are right. that seems wrong. why does only one kind of spell get affected by double the protection? @Ub3rgames
Bala Eregi
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Reply #7
gj man

  • nubnax
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Reply #8
mostly updated for new primary effect values and casting speed values.

the out of date values are marked red.
Bala Eregi
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Reply #9
Nice job. Did you test MM? I always thought MM had a bigger projectile

  • nubnax
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Reply #10
https://forums.darkfallnewdawn.com/index.php/topic,6273.msg98404.html#msg98404

Check that post out. No ranged attack has a bigger projectile size.  they are all the same as far as i know

I didn't test mm specifically though. Can do so tomorrow and will come back to you.
Bala Eregi
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Reply #11
max mount spawn range is something like 100-150m.

  • nubnax
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Reply #12
@mezferic
oh i completely forgot about testing mana missile. sorry :-(
but i tested begone and even begone behaves as every other ranged attack so i'm pretty sure mana missile does too.
Bala Eregi
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Were the stats also maxed out? How much impact do stats have on damage now? Was it changed?
Thanks for the list :)
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  • nubnax
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Reply #14
everything was maxed out when i created that list.
i did max out everything before i made that list to reduce the amount of parameters.
the list is mostly there to compare spells with each other.

i can tell you that strength gives about 5-7 melee damage points from starting char to maximum.

magic is a lot harder. AV made their system really hard to figure things out properly. every single spell behaves slightly different.
for example i know that the staff magnitude value correlates in a linear way to the damage dealt. but every spell has a different slope and intercept.
i can give you a fairly good estimate on damage and attacks/s when you ask me what your weapon with 0.81 dmg and 0.5 attack speed has (again on a maxed char)
i can't do the same for spells. i still haven't completely figured it out.

and now i don't have a maxed char anymore. so testing has ended for now.
  • Last Edit: January 24, 2018, 04:16:49 pm by nubnax
Bala Eregi
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