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Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Villages give too much gold

Normal farming = 3K gold + mats

Example village = 8K gold
Strong clans get the villages to 240% and get around 20K gold per person.
- Now bring 5 alts and you get 100K gold extra.
(Yes, I have seen alts at villages. Sub-continents are dead.)

This creates inequality between strong clans that can win villages and weak clans that can't.
It also causes inflation and devalues money value of hard working people who farm it from normal monsters or sell things at the marketplace.

@Ub3rgames You made monster gold drops very low and we're getting used to it, but you didn't lower village gold.
This is making some clans very rich without much effort. They have made clans consisting of the strongest veteran players and they're now dominating villages easily. Lower the payout or the power gap will continue to increase.

How is it fair when 1 village can generate 320K gold for 15 people? Do you even understand the struggles a clan has to go through to farm that?
  • Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 06:19:09 pm by CeliahAiley

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village)
Reply #1
Or ally up and fight the dominant clans with more people?

Oh wait. Village rewards don't drop for allies.

Yeah, Ub3rgames aren't living up to their promise of making clan leaders' lives easier yet.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village)
Reply #2
Shut the fuck up @MaejohI

You have a disgusting habit of derailing topics and putting your 2 cents everywhere.

The economy (value of money/inflation) is affected by villages, period. It has nothing to do with who wins or losses.
Inequality is affected by it, but zerging strong veteran clans is a terrible solution because zerging sucks. let them continue to win because they're good.

We just want fairness in the economy. And if weak clans can't win fights, then that's fine. But it should not mean that those clans should get destroyed economically. The current village payouts exacerbate the power gap between clans, which is a serious problem in Darkfall because these things kill population. The village payouts are a rich anomaly in a dry gold-deflated economy caused by the "loot table apocalypse" and it must be fixed.

Villages should not give more than 5K gold per person. That's plenty for the effort and risk involved. You can loot other people at villages and you can donate your share to the clan if u need a lot of gold for something. 320K payout for 1 village is just a complete piss take and you might as well slap other players with a penis across the face. That's how humiliating it is when a normal players sits and farms normal monsters for 10-150 gold per kill or even blood knights for 400. And then you just go with your clan, sit on a village with all your DF vet buddies and harvest +100K collectively. That's just stupid.
  • Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 06:03:07 pm by CeliahAiley

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Reply #3
Completely agree. Villages are supposed to be lucrative, sure, but an hour of intensive, focused farming with a 5-man group should be  at least almost as profitable. Mobs are terrible at the moment, and pour almost no gold into the economy, and if you're not in a big vet clan, you're not getting village gold either.

Seems like every design decision with this game was made to increase the gap between no-life veterans and casual newcomers: titles, economy, localized everything, etc.
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Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village)
Reply #4
Shut the fuck up @MaejohI

You have a disgusting habit of derailing topics and putting your 2 cents everywhere.

The economy (value of money/inflation) is affected by villages, period. It has nothing to do with who wins or losses.
Inequality is affected by it, but zerging strong veteran clans is a terrible solution because zerging sucks. let them continue to win because they're good.

We just want fairness in the economy. And if weak clans can't win fights, then that's fine. But it should not mean that those clans should get destroyed economically. The current village payouts exacerbate the power gap between clans, which is a serious problem in Darkfall because these things kill population. The village payouts are a rich anomaly in a dry gold-deflated economy caused by the "loot table apocalypse" and it must be fixed.

Villages should not give more than 5K gold per person. That's plenty for the effort and risk involved. You can loot other people at villages and you can donate your share to the clan if u need a lot of gold for something. 320K payout for 1 village is just a complete piss take and you might as well slap other players with a penis across the face. That's how humiliating it is when a normal players sits and farms normal monsters for 10-150 gold per kill or even blood knights for 400. And then you just go with your clan, sit on a village with all your DF vet buddies and harvest +100K collectively. That's just stupid.
Great post.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village)
Reply #5
There needs to be an incentive for clans to go and contest high % villages in far flung regions.

If you cap a village with a high % bonus then you should receive said bonus until the village is live again, then it should reset back to 0%.

Currently, the only reason to contest the asshole region villages is deny other clans income, you get fuck all out of it yourself.
  • Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 10:48:09 pm by Yeti Magic

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #6
Shut the fuck up @MaejohI
 but zerging strong veteran clans is a terrible solution because zerging sucks.


Hahaha, dear Celiah, why you  create such topic after some good NA players left your clan only? And you almost have no villages cap for a few days?


Strange.....

Seems some1 hurt you again....

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Reply #7
Got 400k in bank atm, prob gone through another 400k when I was grinding, its only 2 weeks in....
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Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #8
Economy is fucked because of alt fall at distant villages.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #9
Uncontested villages should give a shit bonus for consecutive caps :P.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #10
Villages give too much gold

Normal farming = 3K gold + mats

Example village = 8K gold
Strong clans get the villages to 240% and get around 20K gold per person.
- Now bring 5 alts and you get 100K gold extra.
(Yes, I have seen alts at villages. Sub-continents are dead.)

This creates inequality between strong clans that can win villages and weak clans that can't.
It also causes inflation and devalues money value of hard working people who farm it from normal monsters or sell things at the marketplace.

@Ub3rgames You made monster gold drops very low and we're getting used to it, but you didn't lower village gold.
This is making some clans very rich without much effort. They have made clans consisting of the strongest veteran players and they're now dominating villages easily. Lower the payout or the power gap will continue to increase.

How is it fair when 1 village can generate 320K gold for 15 people? Do you even understand the struggles a clan has to go through to farm that?

I already tried to talk sense into them. They're absolute buffoons.

Their response to my VCP thread was "we've tested the village gold per hour vs. killing mobs per hour and the village gold is much worse".

Never mind that you spend 20 minutes on it and it ticks "per hour" for the entire fucking day, nope. They have no clue what they're doing.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #11
Force players to need to collect their gold from the villages they own before the timer runs out and next village cycle begins.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #12
Force players to need to collect their gold from the villages they own before the timer runs out and next village cycle begins.

Yes more tedium is always the answer.

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #13
Yes more tedium is always the answer.
That's DnD motto ;)

Re: Villages give too much gold (+20K for 1 village per person)
Reply #14
Yes more tedium is always the answer.

You rather just have gold somehow teleporting into your bag every hour?